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Dr Hutten -
I could really use some advice. I found you to have some valuable
information online and hope you can help. I'll try to make this short but
might be difficult. My son Ryan will be 20 in October. He was diagnosed
with Aspergers I believe in sixth grade. He started having problems
socially and we couldn't get him to school. He would miss weeks at a time.
He was out of control and twice had him in a psych ward to help settle him
down. We had diagnosis from several doctors ranging for Aspergers, PDD,
non verbal learning disorder - all fairly similar symptoms. One thing that
makes him really unique is his ability to play sports. He was a great
baseball player and soccer player but as he got older couldn't get along
with the kids on the teams and gained a lot of weight. That's how we kept
him social starting at age 3 1/2.
He got completely out of control at age 15 and sent him to a wilderness
program for 2 months. He came back a different child. However, he was not
the only one that needed to change. We all needed to make changes at home
but his mother wouldn't work with the program. We needed some structure.
She would make jokes out of our weekly family meetings which we discussed
good things and bad things occurring in our lives. We discussed our
feelings and how we could make it better for each other. It came highly
recommended from the Wilderness program. When Ryan slipped back into his
old routines, i decided i couldn't live in our dysfunctional environment
any longer and filed for divorce. This devastated Ryan and his sister. His
mother severely alienated both children against me, our friends children
and my entire family. After 18 months of hell with the kids, I allowed
their mother to move to Florida with the kids. She would allow the kids to
call me a F'in loser (I'm clearly not) and any name you could think of.
She would laugh and not parent them. The three of them would gang up on
me. I tried to tell them that their troubles would follow them but they
needed to learn this on their own. I was very against him being taken from
his therapeutic day school and become mainstreamed. Note his mother
doesn't have any family she speaks with. I now have a relationship again
with Ryan but will take longer for his sister. They have been in Florida
for a little over two years now. Ok, that's the "short" history. Here is
the problem at hand.
Although I didn't feel Ryan was ready, I agreed to allow him to go away to
college. If he succeeded, great, if not he tried and he can't come back
and say I held him back. Great news, being away from his mother allowed
our relationship to grow again. He became more outgoing and started to
have a relationship with me, my parents and an uncle again. He made it
sound like he was making friends and that things were changing. He
wouldn't tell anyone at school he had Aspergers as he didn't want to use
it as a crutch. Against my advice and believe his mothers, he took himself
off all his medications. He felt he would do better without them. Well, he
became much more talkative and outgoing being off the medication although
I believe he still needs to be on some of them. You should know that he's
an online game addict. He says he has a ton of friends, but they are all
online. He skypes with several of them and they communicate through the
games, but far from what I call social. He easily is online 14-15 hours a
day.
He took 4 classes to ease himself into college life. Things were great for
the first few months. College is only about an hour from his mother and he
went home one weekend and stayed for a week. Nobody called me to tell me
what was going on and found out when he was driving back to school. He was
frustrated with 2 classes as they were "stupid" and wanted to drop them.
They were environmental classes which he doesn't care about. We talked him
into keeping the two classes as they could be easy A's for him. My parents
drove several hours to be with him and discuss college and why it was
important to him. He told us all he would stick with the classes.
He kept telling me he felt he was doing "ok" with classes but didn't
really know. He told my parents and uncles he was getting a few A's.
Bottom line, I found out Friday he withdrew from the two classes and
flunked the other two. He's been lying to all of us. So, this is where the
question finally comes in. How do I handle this?
He's avoiding my calls although I've been very calm about it saying we had
things to discuss and that it wasn't the end of the world. The worst part
of this is the deception and lying. He needs to learn to be honest and be
accountable for his actions. He can't hide from this. I want him to move
back with me in Illinois from Florida. I want to put some structure back
into his life. I would like him to either get a full time job or go to
some type of computer technical school or community college and avoid the
classes he dislikes. He's very smart and absorbs knowledge like a sponge.
I've tried parenting with his mother but she refuses to talk with me. How
do I approach him about this - am I going about this the right way?
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Mr. Hutten,
I just wanted to thank you so much for your website. My daughter was just diagnosed yesterday after years and years of difficulties at school and at home.
I feel like I am not alone. Your insight and knowledge is incredibly informative and comforting.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with the world.
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A couple of weeks ago I found my son has Aspergers. He is 8 years old and a very intelligent child. I have been trying to learn as much as I can about his disorder. He also is ADHD. He is currently on Vyvanse 70 mg and intuniv 1 mg. I have to give him the Vyvanse at4:30am in order for to get and get ready for school. I give him intuniv at 6:45am. He normally gets up but half of the time takes his time to ready and he does like to brush his teeth. He says he does not like school but once I get him there he is normally ok. He has has quiet a few meltdowns lately at school. For some time now he has been making a fist and blowing in is hand. For the last week and a half, he has been making spit bubbles like a baby does and spitting. He spitted on top of a boys head this past Friday. It seems that every year after February he starts getting worse. He is currently getting therapy but the 1 guy therapist he does not like. I am still seeking more help for my child. I had an EEG done that said he has suggestive complex seizures and epilepsy but the neurologist said he does not have seizures. Last year he was blinking his eyes alot and he has also had shrugging of the shoulders. He loves math but when he was younger he like to read but has no interest in reading now. I would like any advice, that will help us with our child. My husband has no problem with him. He is afraid of him. He listens to me sometimes and is getting better at listening to me but still has meltdowns with me when I take him somewhere. My husband is sick and it is hard for him to go with us. If you know any programs or companies that can help I will appreciate any advice I can get. I have known since he was small that something was wrong and one company told me he was bipolar but I kept seeking because I disagree with that diagnoses. I have been looking at some of carol gray social stories.
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Dear Dr Hutten,
I am the parent of an 18 year old boy who was diagnosed with borderline Asperger's only at age 15.
Whenever he has a meltdown, he will remember how I told him to learn to get along with his peers when he was in primary school and how I did not rescue him from bullying. I feel terrible for the hurt caused to him due to my ignorance of his condition.
He also hates it when I ask him about school and would take things that I say out of context. He will threaten to move out to the hostel or say better still if I move out so that he will not be stressed by me.
It breaks my heart to hear that he will not visit me when he moves out.
Over the past month, he has had 6 anxiety attacks in school as it is his final year. His psychologist has taught him what to do ,yet, today, I find him home early on the pretext he has a sore throat and a day off from school with a medical certificate from the doctor!
I need help to communicate with him!
Also to get him back on track with his studies! He has a scholarship, told me he is aiming for 40 points ( international baccalaureate) yet he is playing computer games a lot these days.
His father says just let him de-stress and he displays the same AS symptoms and will berate me when his son has a meltdown!
I am near breaking point with two of them in the house!
There are few resources open to me in Singapore.
I am thankful to find you on the web!
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After we both listened to your audio presentation, we've both printed out our own copies of the ebook and are gleaning details from it. One thing that I find refreshing in your style of delivery is you have minimized the fluff and have distilled the information a bit. To many times I hear an audio presentation where the speaker talks the first 10 minutes and I'm none-the-wiser and I feel that he/she is actually causing me to become attention deficit. So thank you for your concise delivery.
We are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to send him to Talisman Camp (http://talismancamps.
So between the experience he will get at camp and his mother and I fine-tuning things here at home with your recommendations, we are much more confident in his future.
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Question:
We have a 7 year old son. He doesn't really have much for 'friends'. He seems to think that everybody is his friend, but he doesn't get invited to play dates or birthday parties from his peers at school. There is a neighbor girl about his age that moved in last summer. She has been such a blessing to us and my son because she comes over to play with him and does well when he is having a meltdown, or when his lack of social skills is in full swing. My question is, do some children with Aspergers act or feel as tho they own a friend? Sometimes this girl would like to play with the neighbor girls or other friends and then my son goes into a total meltdown that can last a very long time. He will also try and structure our weekends and weeknights around this child. Not wanting to go anywhere because she might be able to play. Sometimes he just wants at our house, but then he doesn't want to play with her. Yet if she were to go home he would be in meltdown mode.
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RE: My question is, do some children with Aspergers act or feel as tho they own a friend?
I can't thank you enough for this book. I am sitting here in tears and I have only made it to page 15 of 69. It's a miracle I found this tonight. If only you knew what we have been going through, it appears so far you do. But you don't have the particular's of our situation. The tears won't quit flowing.
My son was recently diagnosed finally with Asperger's, after being in and out of the hospital this past year for up to a month at a time. It took the residential treatment facility to diagnosis him and sadly he was only there 3 weeks and insurance denied coverage further for residential.
Our history in dealing with this situation is long and painful as you can imagine. Our son has been lost for so long going undiagnosed and I am still in a state of worry that the Autism Institute that is going to see us later this week, if we make it that far...... will agree. He is in pain, we are in pain, he is angry and has become increasingly defiant and violent and we are becoming increasingly helpless and as your book brought out my tears, as it outlined all we are trying and or that I am saying, threatening calling police again, telling him he will sent to juvie, telling him he will have to live elsewhere because we can't manage him and he refuses to allow us to parent him. It's so stressful on top of his GrandFather / my Father passing away this week.
What is amazing is your book clearly, sadly, out lines where we at. My child that wasn't usually violent and rageful, directed at us...... anyway, in the many months has become someone we don't know and quit frankly someone we are scared of. The past few weeks he is becoming unmanageable and his behavior becoming a regular occurrence of tantrums, threats, physical violence toward us and his brother to the point, as tonight, we have set an alarm on his room door so we know if he comes out in the middle of the night, and the three of us are in the master bedroom with the door secured and an alarm on our door so we know if someone is trying to come in during the night. We went as far as removing all the knives in our kitchen.
This has to stop! We are all miserable. We are to see an Autism Specialist on Wednesday and I am not sure we will make it that far with my son living in our house. We are in fear and walking on eggshells that we will say or do something to set him off. Like not giving him his way when he demands. My calling the police and having him removed via ambulance to the hospital last time he lost control didn't do any good. He only blames us to the last counselor/counselors and or the police about my "bitching" at him. Now we as his parents fear calling them because they told us he will go to regular jail not juvie, because he is 17. Yet at the same time we fear DFACS thinking we are abusive parents or not doing enough to help my son. He has special needs... he is not a full fledged criminal...yet.... his past behavior indicates if we don't get him help, he may well become one on many serious levels, but Nothing is helping... Nor are our continued threats to call the police, nor are the facilities and or professionals we have had him to yet. He tells me go ahead....call the police.... he doesn't care.
HELP! What to do? I am scared to go to sleep tonight... and was researching anger and aggression in Asperger's as this violent side to him toward us and his brother has seemed worse since they placed him on the mood stabilizers and since he was in that residential treatment facility with drug and alcohol children/ juvie's that were violent. It has brought out this horrible side that doesn't seem to be calming down. We are fearful of allowing him around others at church group or social situations because we don't know when he will act out or possibly go off on someone and or us as he did this week even at the funeral home with his brother upon visitation for my Father's passing. We are living in fear of knowing what to do and how to protect everyone. We have another child to protect as well, this is so frightening.
I know I could go on all night about our situation and his ..... I just wanted to thank you for your book and for allowing me tonight, to not feel so alone and terrified about how we are going to help this situation. At least from all of my own counseling, I have learned the only one we can change is ourselves.
So hopefully with your book, and all the other Asperger books I am reading on learning how to become a better parent to my son before we lose him completely to his poor choices and or our lack of knowing how to parent and or help him....your book can help us be better at helping him and helping ourselves. As the multitude of emotions are all over the place. Especially for me as his Mom. The guilt of feeling I haven't done enough, and I should have pushed harder a long time ago, I have failed him, are there. Your book has hit them all on the head.
Interesting my counselor recently before she moved on for her rotation told me we need to try to not engage with energy with him when he is acting out like he is. That it actually feeds him... I was a bit perplexed on what she meant by that and even questioning how she could be sure. But your book is much clearer on why and I have to admit, I wasn't sure I believed her until I read what you wrote.
I will keep reading hopefully until I fall asleep. I pray we can survive this without having to call the police and possibly have him sent to regular jail. I fear we will need to take him back to the hospital and have him admitted, and they so far have been zero help for the past year and didn't even have him diagnosed right. All they seem to do is drug him and that isn't helping either. He is feeling more out of control, more angry and groggy and irritable...eating constantly. His obsessive behaviors have become worse along with his focus and obsession regarding his passion. It seems out of control.
We saw another Asperger Specialist a week or so ago, and after reviewing his history and some of the records along with his IEP, he feels is certainly has now been diagnosed properly by the residential care facility with Asperger's. I have felt like my son had it since I even learned about this condition a few years ago. The course of his personality and behaviors fits exactly like the book that the doctor we met wrote. It was though I was reading all we have been seeing and struggling to understand all these years. How it has gone on so long without an accurate diagnosis, bewilders me.
But hopefully we are on the course to answers and the right help we pray. Thank you again for writing this book and for allowing me to download it immediately tonight. Hopefully it will help us do a better job of knowing what on earth to do to help him and be better parents.
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Hello Mr. Hutten,
I am the single mother of a 16-year-old on the spectrum. His actual diagnoses are PDD-NOS, Thought Disorder, and Psychosis. His main symptom is bizarre behavior. For instance, last week he went to school with an overcoat when it was 90 degrees and had two mismatched shoes. He is also speaking in a language that no one understands - he calls it spanish. He loses his train of thought in the middle of conversation. He also talks to himself constantly.
I have been having the hardest time over the last number of years getting my son to take his medication. We first started with pills, he said he was afraid it would stick in his throat. So we tried liquid form. He found another excuse as to why he could not take the liquid. We have tried the type that melts in your mouth, he tricked me into thinking he was taking that, but I later found out he was spitting them out when I turned my head.
This cycle has gone on and on over several years. Over these years he has had several episodes which lead to inpatient treatment. While in inpatient hospital, he often required several men to hold him down due to his strength. Unfortunately we have not been able to find a psychiatrist/psychologist willing to find the proper treatment for him. Most give up because they say he won't respond to them. I have reached out to treatment facilities in our area, and they tell me they can't force him to take medication. It's been very difficult and as he get's older, I really worry about him. Do you have any idea what I can try next?
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I have a 111/2 year old son with Aspergers,ADHD,PPD-NOS and turrets. He is going into Junior High and up until this year I have been very fortunate to have teachers for him that understood and took necessary steps towards his success. Unfortunately this year (5th grade) ,one of the most critical ,I have not been as fortunate and things have not gone well. Therefore, I have decided to learn as much as I can about how things can and should be done in the classroom. He is in behavioral therapy (DePelchins Children's Center) once a week for 1 hour and he receives services in the area of Pragmatics at the elementary school as well as structured time with his special ed. coach. However, next year he will have at least 6 different teachers and a whole new environment. I have been in touch with the Lead Autism Specialist with the school district and have become close with the superintendent. However, I am not sure that I feel comfortable with him going to school for grades 6-8 due to all of the changes that not just he is going through but every other child as well. Junior High was not my favorite time and I do not have aspergers. The last thing I want to do is home school him for those three years , however if the alternative is Jail I may not have a choice. My son has extreme behavior problems - this year has been pretty bad - the prior years were not choice but progress was being made and there seemed to be a more visible light at the end of the tunnel. I have not worked since my son was 31/2 and he was diagnosed at 4. He has been in therapy and special pre-schools, small group therapy etc.. year round since he was 4. He is currently taking Abilify 5mg twice a day and has been on it for about 2 years. Where as it has helped in his ability to stay calm long enough to think about his choices, we both know medication in this case is only a small part of the solution. After reading up to page 40 of your book I see very clearly what may have contributed to this year turning out the way it has. That is what I have to try my best to prevent as much of this as possible next year. According to Texas law my son can be arrested and taken to juvenile hall for 5 days before he even sees a judge and I can do nothing about it. If he threatens someone with what appears to be a weapon it is a felony offense. Unfortunately the circumstances leading up to this and whether or not it is a manifestation is irrelevant. I have a lot of work to do this summer before I call an ARD before school.
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Hi Mark
As you'll see from my signature on this email I'm the senior IT
executive of a multi-billion dollar corporation operating in over 100
countries however that said I'm also a parent of I think (undiagnosed as
yet) an Asperger's Syndrome teenager who has almost split our family of
six apart with his inappropriate social behaviour.
The reason for my hesitancy is that in South Africa trying to diagnose
Asperger's children has proven extremely difficult due to a lack of
experts - generally they work with very 'obviously' Autistic children
and we've been to more than a dozen specialist GPs, education
psychologists, adolescent psychologists, psychiatrists and neurosurgeons
including a paediatric neurologist. He has definitely got Temporal Lobe
Epilepsy (TLE) and was borne with one kidney which means his auto immune
system has always been problematic. However from a small child he has
exhibited virtually all the Asperger's traits you describe on your web
site to the point that as a teenager he is totally ostracised at school.
The headmaster has now said that because of his inappropriate social
behaviour, distractedness in class, disorganization, loud talking across
others and inappropriate laughing at non-jokes is embarrassing others,
he should go home to be loved! Interestingly his school grades are in
some instances A+ so he certainly is not even close to failing but he
does bear the brunt of constant bullying to the point that he needed to
be hospitalised to have his injuries treated. At a subsequent
disciplinary hearing he 'outed' the perpetrators by being naively
without guile and telling the gruesome truth of the beatings in detail
(all other witnesses were sworn to silence) resulting in all six Grad 12
boys being expelled.
Other than his twice a week psychiatrist and quarterly paediatric
neurologist visits we've employed the services of a Life Coach who has
drawn up a program for our son to assist mostly in his organisational
skills development and schooling in social appropriate behaviour
including manners - he has appalling manners including a diabolical
dress sense. On the positive side he's very loving, compassionate and
can articulate with adults for hours on end at an amazingly intellectual
level for his age of 15 years. An embarrassing behaviour is his cutting
into adult conversations where our other children would dare not go. He
also retains a vast mental library of almost unbelievable facts on quite
a few subjects such as animals, war history and fly fishing coupled to a
wild imagination. By the way evidence of ADHD has been ruled out however
he does exhibit ADD to some degree but its sporadic and we've noticed
that if he does things he loves he can concentrated for hours in fact
tying flies for fly fishing will keep him occupied all night and it's a
problem to get him to go to sleep. Medication wise he only takes anti
epilepsy drugs although we might have to put him onto something like
Prosac for his anxiety - Ritalin caused him to have severe grand mal
seizures.
This tall 6 foot 174 pound amiable yet extremely shy boy with quirks
such as a head tic desperately needs help and his parent more so.
The primary question though is how does one get a diagnostic other than
going through endless research such as what we have done this past year?
Are there online diagnostic tools or is this something we have to
discuss with a specialist? We do have your eBook and will be following
your program avidly however a diagnostic would prove extremely helpful
because we can then get on with 'treating' his behaviour including our
own.
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Mark! Thank you so much for all the info. you send. It really helps with the students I am working with.
I am very appreciative of your work and expertise.
Gratefully,
Ted
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I have been a primary school teacher for over forty years and recognise the signs of Aspergers in my grandchild. In many ways he does not present as badly as he could because he is very well parented.
He is eleven now and although high functioning academically struggles with many social skills, tends to be clumsy, was a late talker, has obsessive interests that he pursues until he is an expert. Thomas the tank engine, dinosaurs, books and natural disasters to mention a few.
I have not used the word Aspergers with his parents as I am not sure they want to hear this from me. Psychs do not seem to have mentioned it - I wonder if good parenting is masking the obvious?
However, I believe that the book would be excellent for him (and them) as they are beginning to accept my suggestions that he needs "scripts to handle social behaviours and develop friendships."
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Dear Mark,
I have a fourteen year old that has been diagnosed with a mood disorder (bipolar). This started when she was in fifth grade, in the beginning of this year she had swine flu ;and walking pneumonia, then in February of the same year she got mono. The beginning of her sixth grade her period wouldn't stop and she was diagnosed with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. She also had a bullying incident that caused her to retreat and now want to go to school. She has been hospitalized four times in the past three years. The first hospitalization was because she started eating a lot of fiber bars around 2 am and exercised in her room. She lost too much weight during that time and her heart muscle was weakened. The other three times she threatened suicide. The last two times were within the last two months. She has major anxiety about school and we have tried six antidepressents. She is rebellious and won't go to school and I feel she plays victim a lot. I just want to take a chance that she will do something that would seriously injure her. She also used to cut herself. We are with Kaiser and we are working with the school district..I know that my husband and I would love parenting help for her. She does have a lot of friends and wants to go out all the time. But she hasn't really completed any school work in the last three years. We really need to get a handle on this so our ten yr old daughter doesn't get more affected by this. Do you think your program could help us? We almost sent her to a therapeutic wilderness camp, but the cost would have been close to $12,000 for 45 days.
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When my son was diagnosed with AS last year, after a little time I came to the realisation of my husband having the same issues/traits. It gave me an explanation of why we were having relationship difficulties and why I was feeling like I was. In talking about this to him in a supportive way, I thought with this understanding we could improve our marriage. However, he has not accepted he has AS/traits and was offended that I would suggest this. We have separated at his initiation. He was not open to any counselling. What can you do if he does not accept about AS? I am not sure if leaving is because he can't deal with things?
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